Apr 27, 2010
決志 與 洗禮
你認為,人點解會願意決志(pray the sinner’s prayer),但係就唔肯洗禮?
請留言。
No la,我哋唔係喺北極。
Filed by edmund at 11.52 am under Faith |
你認為,人點解會願意決志(pray the sinner’s prayer),但係就唔肯洗禮?
請留言。
No la,我哋唔係喺北極。
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7 Comments
Vincent
Some of them don’t think it is important at all, not treating the religion and Christ seriously.
Some of them think 決志 與 洗禮 can be separated…決志(salvation) is the confirmation of eternal life, 洗禮 needs to commit for changes and responsibility(deeds).
Apr 27th, 2010
littleho
1)好似d人同居,唔肯結婚。一個字講晒:commitment
2)知性/信心與行為分割。決志屬於前者,洗禮屬後者。當教會十分強調「因信稱義」、「全是恩典」之類教義,洗禮對救恩的影響近乎零。在實用主義下,可以相信就得救,仲為咩要洗禮?(我教會許多人肯去浸禮,因為基於一個歪理,以為浸禮目的是要「向魔鬼和向世人見證自己屬於神」)
3)信徒以為洗禮=畢業禮,他們覺得自己未夠班,無資格畢業(即覺得自己做得未夠好)
4)教會失落了有關洗禮的教導。
Apr 27th, 2010
edmund
超得意的是,這種抹殺新約明顯的「洗禮」命令之人,多是來自那些自稱是篤信聖經教導的教會,反為其他宗派的信徒,卻不多有這種諗法…
Apr 27th, 2010
Jonathan
因為基於一個歪理,以為浸禮目的是要「向魔鬼和向世人見證自己屬於神」This is interesting.
Apr 27th, 2010
Karen
我也認識這樣的信徒。可能他們認爲,「個人得救」與「加入教會」是兩回事。我得救不一定等於我要洗禮。更奇怪的是,教會的弟兄姊妹又當正他們已經洗禮一樣,讓他們事奉及作各樣的事工。這樣,他們更認爲沒有洗禮並沒什麽不妥。正正是Edmund所講的「超得意」!
Apr 28th, 2010
edmund
Karen提的是一種功能分割:既然做乜到得咯,咁洗禮嚟做乜?另一邊的極端是:洗咗禮就係member,要做嘢,所以死到唔洗。
其實,更值得問的是「決志」的聖經根據在哪裡?
至於豪仔所說的「以為洗禮=畢業禮」,我看會引來兩種畸型結果:一是未夠班,唔洗;另一是洗了,「畢業」了,please bother me no more…
Apr 28th, 2010
Quan
“其實,更值得問的是「決志」的聖經根據在哪裡”…
超同意! 其實「決志」係邊道彈出里?!
人子都要被洗,何況我地….決定信就洗,有mud問題,
個人認為,這個「決志」荼毒了不少弟兄姊妹,因為「決志」帶著一種可以閃可以改變嘅後路,不似受洗咁有不再回頭嘅意味, 有行動嘅感覺, 心裡亦感覺紮實, 過咗紅海就係過咗紅海, 想反轉頭都唔係咁易…
里個「決志」嘅出現,同”只有牧師先可以行施洗”嘅諗法好有關係.每個門徒都有行施洗行教導嘅責任, 但係就不被”教會”提倡,唔好話提倡, 你只要試吓做一次,excommunicate你都有份. 如果我唔洗得嘅時候,咁就唯有叫嗰個人祈著禱先,叫佢同神講著先,等都有人有”資格”同佢洗喇先洗啦…..
ah.. 其實真係新瓶舊酒, 不過,比舊時連聖經都唔准睇就好好多lor…
寫太多了,唔走去係咪洗咗就得救嗰道…
Apr 28th, 2010
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